Magnum's Threesome Game and Lay Report

I don’t write many lay reports because I find them boring.

Good seduction competently follows Mystery’s attraction, comfort, escalation model and so lay reports tend to get repetitious. I’m much more interested in the principles of game that you can use repeatedly to get ongoing results than any one particular story.

Knowing the underlying principles means you can get repeat results. Recently I pulled together a threesome with my main girl and a new one I met, and taking RPD’s excellent advice I wanted to write this lay report to crystallize for myself what I did right while my thoughts are fresh. I intend to do more of these in the future.

I have to credit Red Quest and his book as well as Hector Beaman’s tweets on “Game 3.0” as well. They left me feeling that I could be pushing my envelope and doing more threesomes as well as better leveraging my relationships with my regulars.

From these guys and my own experience I’ve had the nagging feeling that many of the girls I date would be up for threesomes if I set things up right, and it’s been a goal for me to get better at this. The more I date the more I learn just how sexual women are, but at the same time they must be led and are often just waiting for the right man to create opportunities for them.

Over the course of 2019 I’ve increasingly become closer to one of my regular girls in particular. She started out as something casual several years ago but over time we’ve developed a close bond and we have each other’s trust. She knows I will always date multiple women and encourages it, and she has earned her position as my main girl.

This main girl of mine is very sexual and open minded like me, but she is not bi-sexual or in to girls.

So my first approach to setting up a threesome was verbalizing threesome fantasies to her once in a while as part of the dirty talk we have during sex. I’d let her enjoy the fantasy of having another girl as an additional “fuck toy” for us to enjoy together, bringing this up occasionally when fucking in an intensely sexual state.

This planted the seed made her open to the experience (learning 1 below). I’d also tell her how exciting it would be for her to watch my pleasure and enjoy another girl. This would get her excited, and I could see the potential was there.

With the seed planted I gave my main the homework of finding a friend for us to play with. She’s still in her early 20’s and girls in the 18-23 range tend to be the most sexually open, so the possibility was there. This could have worked because she did try (learning 2 below), but the few candidate girls in her social circle are currently cuffed so this avenue wasn’t going to come through any time soon.

I thought about bringing in one of my other regular girls. But as I felt them out verbally they all indicated that they either weren’t into girls and/or that they would feel jealous or uncomfortable. At the same time I didn’t want to create drama main girl by introducing her to a girl that I have an ongoing thing with. My mistake here was that I wasn’t planting the seed for threesomes with my other regulars from the start (learning 1 once again). It was clear that a threesome at this point would best be done with a new girl.

My main girl, bless her heart, also tried to complete the homework I gave her of finding us another girl by using an online dating app made especially for threesomes. But the matches on there were mostly couples, and beyond that the quality was very poor.

So with this as with all things related to women I realized it would be up to me entirely to make things happen (learning 3 below). My mental block was that I liked where I was with my main girl and I didn’t want to change our current dynamic or initiate drama since we’re in a very good place.

Then in passing she asked me, “When are you going to find a threesome for us?”. Very subtle. This was my sign to get up off my ass and make it happen.

At the time she brought this up, I had already set up a first date with a cute middle-eastern girl I met online for the next day. The new girl had just texted me to confirm our date, which is a positive sign that her interest in me was high.

Because my main girl was completely in at this point and the new girl seemed on from the texting I decided to go for it. I told my main girl that a cute new girl her age was texting me, and suggested that the three of us go out for drinks together and see what happens. She was in.

So I pitched the date via text to the new girl like this:

The lesson I learned from feeling out my regulars is that pitching things verbally was too direct. So from this text onward I kept things indirect verbally and instead relied upon my actions and leadership to make it happen (learning 4).

I have no doubt that the new girl understood everything from the moment I sent the above text, but at no time did I verbalize the intent. Instead I led both girls strongly through the date to make the experience happen (learning 5). As you shall see.

With the date confirmed I ran my standard first date model. My main girl and I met the new girl at a nice bar and I led us through a one hour conversation.

We sat around a small table and I made sure to sit in the middle so I can touch both girls gently as needed. The first few minutes were get to know you small talk as we ordered drinks and I’d include the occasional light tease to spike things up. I then transitioned in to relationship talk to get things interesting, asking new girl about her dating history, the types of men she likes, where she likes to travel and so on.

My main girl blurted out at one point, “you can’t ask her that!” when I asked why her last relationship ended and we were only 15 minutes in to the date, but new girl and I both smiled and she happily answered. Don’t ever take dating advice from women. It was important to break the ice and set an intimate tone without being too overtly sexual until comfort was built.

New girl was very introverted and she would give short answers to my questions. My main girl is outgoing but she was fairly quiet throughout, although I ensured all three of us were included in the conversation. I could tell main girl was enjoying seeing this side of me and she was also deferring to my leadership. So I had to do most of the conversational work, much more than I normally do on a first date.

We were all a bit nervous and excited as well knowing what was likely going down. Both girls are extremely attractive, and I believe this helped create more attraction in them to me via pre-selection. I kept the energy high and the vibe light and fun, and didn’t get into sexual topics since my feel of the situation was that the three of us being together on a date was enough of a sexual charge as it was. The attraction was there and my focus was on building comfort.

I sensed all of us were feeling a bit nervous despite sensing that everything was completely on. I instinctively knew the girls would feel what I feel and follow my lead so I kept a happy and playful vibe and mixed in plenty of comfort topics along with the subject of dating and occasional tease, of both girls. I did my best to bring out fun conversation from both girls. I normally don’t play such an extroverted role on dates, but since the girls were nervous I had to keep the right vibe and energy going (learning 6).

I made sure to take a break during the date to use the bathroom (something my main girl and I planned prior) so that the girls could talk and get to know each other 1:1. My main girl later said this helped them connect with each other better and made them more comfortable (learning 7).

At around the hour mark I could feel the energy ebbing and that it was time to bounce. The bar was a block away from my place (always have your logistics sorted – learning 8) and without saying where we were going I suggested we get another drink, which the girls readily agreed to.

Then the waiter comes and tells me they overcharged me for drinks and needed to re-bill me. My main girl later said she thought they wanted to check me out since I was an older man with two attractive young women in their early 20’s. I don’t think this was the case, but since we were losing momentum and the overcharge was something like $20 I just took the girls and left. Momentum is key (learning 9).

I walked them straight to my place keeping small talk going the whole time. When we arrived I told new girl, “I live right here, why don’t we just have a drink at my place?” and she agreed. Up we all went. My main later teased me for how smooth the suggestion was. To be honest, from the time of new girl’s response to my suggestion to bring my main girl above and also from the fact that new girl showed up to the date I never had a doubt that it was on, as long as I led us through properly.

I went to put on music and took my time so the girls could have a bit more 1:1 time. My main girl had another drink and new girl and I had water. The three of us sat next to each other on the couch with me in the middle. My legs were touching a girl on either side, my main girl to the left and new girl on the right.

Throughout the date I was making eye contact with my main girl to ensure she was good (learning 10). She would eye code me that she was. Sitting on the couch I checked in with her again non-verbally as we all made small talk. Green light. New girl would later comment how she could see the connection between my main girl and I. I’m sure this helped build comfort and pre-selection.

It being January it was a bit cold and I was trying not to shiver. It was time to escalate. I did what I normally do when going for the kiss, which was to just finish a sentence and let the conversation pause, while I gently and confidently held new girl’s arm and pulled her in to me for the kiss.

I kissed her gently but passionately for a few seconds and then I pulled back to give her a moment to take it all in. I could tell her heart was pounding.

Then I turned to my left to my main girl and did the same with her. She was all smiles. I went back and kissed new girl deeper and longer, and then alternated again giving the girls equal time (learning 11).

Although more of the conversation up until this point was focused on new girl since she was getting to know us, from this point on in the date I made sure to give equal sexual attention to both. If I was making out with one girl I was sure to be at least touching the other girl.

Then I suggested the two of them kiss each other and they refused…like two shy little school girls. I took this as a sign they just weren’t bi-sexual and so I knew that this was going to be a threesome where I would need to do most of the work.

Unfazed by the minor non-compliance I had new girl face and straddle me as I sat on the couch and I made out with her more. I used this position to reach around and finger her from behind while I sucked on her tits getting her very worked up. I needed to get her going to calm her nerves. I knew once aroused the girls would be willing to go further sexually.

I took off her dress and then made out with my main girl some more while rubbing new girl’s pussy. Being familiar with me, my main girl didn’t need as much foreplay and I could tell she was getting turned on by seeing me expertly seduce another attractive girl in front of her.

With the girls heated up I led them both by the hand to the bedroom and had them strip naked as I got naked as well. With my nerves and excitement I wasn’t yet fully hard. So I had them both girls kneel down in front of me and take care of that for me, with new girl sucking on the head while my main girl worked the shaft. It’s one of the best visuals a man can see.

I lifted new girl up and put her on the bed and my main girl joined us. I started going down on new girl while at the same time fingering my main girl. After going down on new girl I fucked her first. I wanted to keep up the momentum with her so she wouldn’t get cold feet.

Once we started fucking she really got in to it. I used a condom on new girl and would take it off with my main girl. I’d switch girls every 5-10 minutes or so and fuck them in different positions as well. There was a feeling of intensity between me and each girl while I was fucking her, the eye contact with both was extremely strong and intense.

My guiding principle for the session was to ensure no girl was ever left out. So as I would fuck one I’d make the other suck her tits or make out with the girl being fucked. I would finger a girl while I fucked the other one. Or have a girl play with my balls while I’m fucking the other. I tend to go long during sex and I’m in shape, so a threesome like this is a complete physical workout and yet there is more to be aware of with the extra girl.

After going through three condoms in this way the girls were very in to it and had no problem kissing each other. New girl also went down on my main girl and asked to scissor her, and main girl happily agreed.

I was finally ready to finish . I had my girl on her knees again sucking my balls while new girl titty fucked me, and then I pulled them together to take my full load on their tits. It was a very sexy scene.

I like to cuddle after sex so I pulled them both onto the bed with me and had my main girl on my left and the new girl on my right.

With the afterglow we went back to small talk some more. This is where I learned that new girl was born in Iraq (I’d have guessed she was Greek she was very fair), this had been her first threesome, and lots more. New girl commented how main girl and I connect a lot non-verbally which she liked.

The date had started at 7pm and it was about 10pm. 1 hour at the bar, 30 minutes transition, and 90 minutes of sex with cuddling. None of us had eaten. So I suggested a little place down the street for dinner and off we went. After dinner new girl ubered home and my main girl came back with me to spend the night.

I won’t go in to details but my main girl confirmed to me once we were alone that we were closer than ever.

She already knew that I’m good with women and I will always date multiple girls, but this time she saw me in action with a girl as least as attractive as she is. I had led and made an amazing experience happen for us. In retrospect I think my fears of drama were overblown. Making this threesome happen allowed me to directly demonstrate many of the qualities in a man that Jimmy Jambone points out are key for attraction:

  1. Sociable nature
  2. Leadership
  3. Sex appeal
  4. Communication
  5. Positive, passionate, ambitious
  6. Indifference (outcome independent)
  7. Humor
  8. Health

Finally I have to say there was an element of luck. A lot of girls would have ghosted after my suggestion text while instead new girl came out. I will be trying this process more often so I’ll find out just how much came down to finding the right girl.

This exercise of writing everything down in detail has also helped me see there was a lot of good game on my part at at the very least I didn’t fuck things up with two “yes” girls.

I look forward to the future experiences to come.

– Magnum

Magnum’s Threesome Game Takeaways:

  1. Set the frame from the first time you meet a girl that you’re a sexual, non-judgmental guy. Plant the seed with women you date as part of your sexual dirty talk that a threesome would be fun for you and her to enjoy together.
  2. Give girls you date the homework to find other girls for threesomes.
  3. Although it’s good to give your women homework to find other girls, don’t rely on this alone. As the man it’s up to you to make things happen.
  4. When pitching the actual threesome date to a girl you don’t know well, be indirect. Instead just suggest another friend joins for a drink or that you hang out at your place. Give girls plausible deniability.
  5. Threesomes take even stronger leading than a normal 1:1 date. You as the man have to lead the girls through the entire process.
  6. You set the vibe and energy throughout and be prepared to do most of the conversational work.
  7. Give the girls some time 1:1 during the first date together if they don’t know each other well in order to help them connect girl to girl.
  8. Always have your logistics planned in advance. If you don’t meet straight at your place meet somewhere very nearby to keep the bounce home short. Have condoms ready at your place. Logistics are fundamental.
  9. Keep the momentum moving. Use your instincts and experience of when attraction and comfort have been achieved, and don’t miss your window for isolating and escalating to sex. You have two girls to bring through the seduction process so be mindful of both and where you are in the process all together.
  10. If you’re having a threesome with a girl you’re seeing regularly, be sure to agree ground rules with her up front. Give her comfort that the threesome won’t change your dynamic, and also check in with her non-verbally throughout the date.
  11. With a threesome you’re dating two girls, give them both attention. Eye contact, conversation, foreplay, sex. Don’t give all your attention to one at the expense of the other. This is a threesome…not you fucking a girl while the other one watches.

Author: Magnum

https://magnumlivelarge.blog/

15 thoughts on “Magnum's Threesome Game and Lay Report”

    1. As with so many things regarding women the key is do this non-verbally through your actions, starting from the very first moment you meet her. You don’t have a conversation about being non-monogamous, rather you simply do it and don’t talk about it.

      This means talking about sexual topics on your first date like it’s no big deal, fucking her good and giving her orgasms every time you fuck, only seeing her once a week or less, and not texting her more than a few times a week max. She will get the message loud and clear.

      The crucial thing here is that you are 100% consistent. If you only see her once a week (casual dating) but then take her to meet your parents (“serious” dating) then you are sending mixed messages and she will shit test you.

      If you’re doing all these things correctly then she won’t ask you about whether you’re seeing other girls for months, if ever. If you are inconsistent she will bring it up. If she does bring it up, such as asking “are you seeing other girls?” you treat it like a shit test and either ignore or agree & amplify “Other girls? I’m a virgin ;)” or “yes I’m seeing 37 girls right now, but don’t worry you’re my 7th favorite ;)”.

      I’ve recommended a few books in my reading list that go into detail

      Hope that helps.

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      1. Hi Magnum, would you mind expanding a bit on what you consider no-gos with plates, for not sending mixed signals?
        Not introducing your parents to a plate is an obvious one, but do you have any other hard rules on what not to do?
        For example do you take plates on weekend trips with you? You don’t seem to mind paying for dinner or drinks, I see.

        I’d also be interested in how exactly you seeded the 3some during sex.
        I consider myself pretty verbal during sex, e.g. I often narrate to the girl what Im about to do to her. But I’m not really sure, how to introduce a fantasy which goes beyond the current moment to her. Might need to reread sex god method, i remember it containing some paragraphs on this topic.

        If any of this is too specific or personal, feel free to ignore. Thanks!

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  1. This was a piece of art. Venusian art. Congratulations on your threesome and the detailed report.

    >but since we were losing momentum and the overcharge was something like $20 I just took the girls and left. Momentum is key (learning 9).

    I’ve had waiters and random people try to break my momentum with bullshit, especially when it’s blatantly obvious I’m gaming girls in public and it’s working. This was smart.

    >o I had them both girls kneel down in front of me and take care of that for me, with new girl sucking on the head while my main girl worked the shaft. It’s one of the best visuals a man can see.

    It is. Very peaceful. Some say three girls are even better than two, and they are right.

    >I used a condom on new girl and would take it off with my main girl.

    With a Tinder girl, I wouldn’t have taken the chance. Still, respect for your self-control.

    This is one of the few serious reports on threesomes I’ve read. Thank you for taking the time.

    I am curious about your success rate with threesomes: how many times did you attempt this and it didn’t work? I ‘ve had many threesomes, but also blew up a lot (https://experimentandstandardize.wordpress.com/2017/06/04/threesome-failures/) I learned the only way to have them consistently is de facto bigamy. To my experience there is no reliable system: so much depends on the girls and their mood difficulty increases exponentially.

    Also, often shit-testing and frame testing redouble once they see what you are about to do, even with solid girls. I could disagree on being so verbal about what’s going on or what’s about to happen (introducing the topic, asking them, etc.) but it was very stoic of you to keep rolling after their non-compliance to kiss.

    I may publish my foursome lay report because of your post. Inspiring.

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    1. Glad you liked the post. I put it out here in detail in part to work through what worked well and what didn’t. I’d like to do threesomes more often in the future, of course the pandemic is fucking everything up right now.

      Over the past year this is the only one I’ve had out of about 5 attempts. All with the same main girl but different side girls. With the 4 that fell through the other girl always ghosted or bailed so we never met up. This was the only one where I got the girls together, which I would say is 80% of making it happen.

      Would love to read more of your experiences, always good to see what’s working

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  2. Love your blog – found you through Red Quest.

    On the subject of girls not being sexual with each other until they’re wet – that’s exactly how things went with one girl I dated for a while. She was absolutely *adamant* she was straight and not even remotely bi-curious. Yet she was dating another girl with me (in a menage-a-trois). The two of them would kiss, make out, go down on each other, finger each other, hold hands and cuddle – yet she maintained, “I identify as straight.”

    The other girl and I used to tease her about it during sex. She’d be in the middle of going down on the second girl, and I’d say to her, “Are you still straight?” She’d pause, lift her head up, her lips literally wet with pussy juice, and say with a very serious face, “Yes I told you I’m straight”. Then she’d go back to eating pussy.

    100% straight, apparently.
    -Andy

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  3. Hey Magnum.

    I missed this post when you first put it out… I read it this week, and it’s been on my mind. Really great post. One of the best examples of “good conquest” (which guys like) mixed with a really good read of the dynamics. I agree, most lay reports are boring… this was much better than that.

    We know each other, and I think the most interesting part of this post is that you changed your “style” a little to make this happen…

    >> So I had to do most of the conversational work, much more than I normally do on a first date.

    I think you make comments like this ^ in this post at least a couple of times. This gets to some of the dynamics that interest me in this story.

    You were doing something more difficult, and you had to put more of your talent/energy into it to pull it off.

    >> I gave my main the homework of finding a friend for us to play with
    >> Give girls you date the homework to find other girls for threesomes.

    I hear this ^… with TONS of respect, this is “PUA myth” stuff, for the most part. I have heard this before, and I general, I don’t trust thus line of thinking. Lazy men, with little skill, dream about “being so cool” their girl brings them other women… it’s completely fantasy land. Not because some men aren’t that solid… but because it misses how girls work. Those myths persist as they help lazy guys create a path that would work for them… even as they know they don’t have the skill to set it up on their own.

    I know it exists, it’s possible… it’s just an extremely “low %” way to see the world, IMAO. It’s a “feminine” way to see 3somes… where two girls fuck you. And that isn’t how it’s going to work, not even for very cool, solid guys.

    I like your story, in large part, as you work right past the Myth… and show us you are more than “little kid” fantasies.

    >> “Game 3.0” as well

    I love Game. I have studied so much. And as for “Game 3.0” – I have never trusted any of those comments.

    Game 3.0 is kind of a goofy concept for me. I think it’s built almost entirely around Nathan (whom I really like and respect, he is for REAL), and always misses the role of HIS SPECIFIC GIRL, and how she, in particular, helps him have the lifestyle he has. I think Nathan is a very special guy, 1%er, but I think the Game 3.0 stories never seem to put their finger on how HIS MAIN make the “male fantasy” elements happen.

    3somes are possible, but not really as described by Game 3.0. You showed us a much more real version of 3somes in the SMP.

    I give Nathan 1000% credit for his relationship, for his very interesting history as a man (fighter/bouncer/photographer/etc) for creating something so strong, than he/she can pull off their 3some game… but to see that as “Game 3.0,” and not a radically rare combination of him and HER IN PARTICULAR, is to miss how life/sex is for most combinations of men/women (even for very experienced guys).

    >> My main girl, bless her heart, also tried to complete the homework I gave her
    >> So with this as with all things related to women I realized it would be up to me entirely

    This ^ is where I think you – and this post – blows the doors off of the “3.0” fantasy stuff. You did so many smart things in this experience. You read those girls so well. You lead them. You filled in the “missing energy” that was needed. You are showing a much more “high %” play than the “telling guys what they want to hear” advice out there.

    Very, very strong post man. 100% credible. Really insightful. I trust this post in a way I don’t trust most guys and their stories.

    Final comment – really great notes about how well you took care of your girl. Also, super credible, and great leadership for those girls and for us on this side reading it. Really important notes to included. Well done.

    Excellent. One of the best posts I’ve seen anywhere. I can feel the comparison to RedQuest… as he is also Top Tier on these topics as well.

    Viva Magnum.

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    1. The “homework” kind of thing can work… but it’s a 1% scenario… 1% of men can pull it off, and it will work with 1 – 5% of women. It, or a variant of it, has worked for me, but very rarely. If the girl is aligned with the threesome idea in general… she may be able to pull it off. Much more commonly, however, girls are too inept to make anything happen. https://theredquest.wordpress.com/2019/10/02/threesome-management-how-to-do-and-arrange-ffm-and-mfm/

      A scenario like Magnum’s is more common. Or a scenario involving alcohol.

      If your frame, and your underlying belief (and life experience), is that FMF is normal and common… the girl will tend to buy/believe that too. Girls can sense congruence just like they can sense weakness.

      In general, it seems that most girls are propositioned for FMF by thirsty and weak guys, and the proposition is delivered by the guy like a kid imploring his parents for a good present from santa for Christmas. Please please mommy, bring me another girl! Not a good frame. Unless both girls are truly bi I find FMF fun (obviously) but usually a lot of work. Great stories but they often feel like food meant to wow an audience visually and look great for the cameras but that maybe doesn’t taste quite as good as something meant to be eaten, not admired as a work of art.

      Most of the “game 3.0” guys don’t describe how an average or above-average guy might go from their current life to the game 3.0 life, probably because it’s so hard to do. https://theredquest.wordpress.com/2019/02/07/you-only-see-the-tip-of-the-spear/ The guy probably needs to have income/job, game, fitness/looks, diet, fashion, attitude, location/geography, health, and confidence all completely locked down and solid. Personally, I have found more couple-to-couple mechanics to be easier and more repeatable, and if the girl gets comfortable with them, she’s more likely to be up for FMF, although that’s obviously not necessary (as Magnum’s story shows). Most girls who do FMF will then seek MFM, for the sake of equality.

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  4. Thank you Nash. I appreciate the great comments and I’m also honored.

    As you shared, we know each other well in real life. You’ve also met my main girl from this story. So you know my vibe and my game and can appreciate this story more than most readers.

    This threesome definitely had me stretching my skills out of my comfort zone. It was also about experimenting and putting to the test a lot of the platitudes and generalized statements without technique that are out there.

    You’re the one who inspired me to first share my texting game on your blog, and also to write my popular post on my dating model. I hope it comes across that the above is built on those fundamental frameworks.

    I do think that game 3.0 could work in some contexts for a minority of men. But as you point out, and in my experience here, women just don’t have the consistent competence and initiative to make it a reliable source. Maybe for guys like Nathan who date older women or have a really switched on main girl. But I found in the above and since then it is much more reliable to have a main girl open to me bringing in new random girls based on my own game. That said, I do think giving my main the homework assignment primed her mentally for wanting to do this even if nothing else came out of it, and had her working with me as I gamed and brought in the other girl.

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